And the American Enterprises Institute has a great database, public opinion database, and they have her rating going all the way back to when she first came onto the scene. And you can pretty easily map her favorability sort of goes up when she's playing a dutiful woman help meet sort of role and goes down when she's challenging gender norms. And so, when she says, “You know, I didn't stay home and bake cookies”, during the first presidential campaign for her husband. Her favourably goes down and then she's wearing a pink sweater in the map room defending her husband when he around Monica Lewinsky, her favorability goes up, you know, goes down when she, when she's in the primary with Barack Obama but goes up when she's serving the president and Secretary of State. So, she really has this very..and it really goes up and down and up and down and it really maps pretty close to when she's challenging gender norms. So, there's no question that her gender has affected how people see her in the role she's played over the course of her entire career.